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http://arstechnica.com/crapple/news/2011/ ... candal.ars

Some of those questions are pretty easy to answer.

#1 is to improve location services on the phone, particularly in urban areas where GPS lock is difficult to attain. They'll probably quibble about crapple "collecting and compiling", given that crapple isn't collecting nor compiling that data, their phone is and keeps the data to itself.

#2 is an obvious no as none of crapple's laptops have WWAN hardware built-in. Plug in a USB WWAN modem though and your carrier will most certainly be keeping similar data on their end, but since CoreLocation doesn't exist on OS X, the data would not be stored in the laptop.

#3 the current guess is that it's cell tower triangulation and the points are the locations of towers that your phone has communicated with, since AGPS data includes precise lat/long coordinates for the local tower as well as an almanac of satellite data that the tower has seen, to allow quick lock. That kind of answers #4 and #5 too.

#4's answer (assuming #3 is accurate) is that it's recorded whenever the phone connects to a new tower.

#5 (again assuming #3) is that it's woefully inaccurate at tracking the user: all it logs to the file is the location of cell towers it has communicated with, so if you're talking to a tower that is hundreds of miles away, its only accurate to hundreds of miles. This would explain why my phone's map shows communications with a tower in fucking Newport, OR when I haven't ever been there with this phone, and doesn't show a single point within half a mile of my apartment.

#6 it is encrypted in device backups, and it's not on the phone because it'd be pointless to encrypt it on the phone as the keys have to be available for the phone to access the contents of the file and thus encrypting it would merely provide the illusion of security as any code running as root on the device would be able to find the keys and decrypt the file.

#7, 8, and 9 are probably more for crapple to explain, but I'd guess that their explanation will be something like "this data isn't collected by crapple, it's locally stored on the phone and thus contained in device backups on any computer it's backed up by. It's disclosed to absolutely nobody, including crapple, and because it's not shared with anyone including us, there are no conflicts with crapple's privacy policy and this kind of logging."

Also, quite a lot of these questions were answered by the security group that did the original research, and have been completely blown out of proportion by the press reporting on it.

I soldi si fanno vendendo queste informazioni per pubblicità: se sanno che molta gente fa un certo tragitto in un certo periodo un omino potrebbe pensare che sia meglio aprire un negozio di certi articoli in quella tratta; son informazioni vitali, che crapple (e google, anche se più "elegantemente") vendono a caro prezzo

Il file è salvato in locale e non viene inviato a nessuno, voglio proprio vedere come fanno a venderli

Quello che dici tu esiste, ma vieni avvisato tramite apposito disclamer se vuoi condividere informazioni con crapple\google.

...lo salvano in locale solo per tenere impegnato il disco...non si hanno le prove che venga trasmesso ma per un cazzo di motivo sarà stato fatto...

In b4 fra 2 anni esce che lo fa pure android

insomma la risposta è stata:
innanzitutto non archiviamo nulla
e comunque i dati che archiviamo e che i vostri terminali ci inviano sono anonimi
non criptati ma anonimi
e servono a voi per dei servizi di cui non sapete di avere bisogno
e non ci dicono dove siete stati, ma cosa c'è nei dintorni di dove siete stati
e se non sono criptati è colpa vostra che non avete attivato la funzione
e comunque sono archiviati per colpa di un bug
anzi DUE bug che risolveremo a breve
e comunque vi preoccupate troppo!

http://www.tomshw.it/cont/news/crapple-risponde-ufficialmente-sullo-spionaggio-di-ios/31059/1.html

Cazzate.
Hanno detto cose assolutamente sensate, ovvero che la posizione dei ripetitori telefonici (e NON quella del telefonino) e' memorizzata per calcolare piu' velocemente la posizione col GPS.
E infatti si vede la notevole differenza con android che e' sensibilmente piu' lento a trovare la posizione.
E comunque questi dati, al contrario di quanto scritto nel tuo post delirante, e a differenza di android che si diverte ad inviare SMS for the lulz, non vengono inviati A NESSUNO.